Sarah McBride

Yes.

Trans women have a different experience on average than a non-transgender woman.

And that there are differences in the lived experience in the policy questions in some cases for trans women versus a woman who's not, who wasn't born trans.

Yes.

And I just think like,

The reality, the existence of trans people is not a philosophical or ideological disagreement.

Trans people exist and trans people have existed throughout human history.

And there might be conversations around specific policies, but a question framed and asked in a way that reduces trans people to an ideological question is fundamentally dehumanizing at the end of the day.

We can have a conversation about policy, but dehumanizing trans people into some sort of philosophical or political act only reinforces a narrative that allows for the dehumanization of trans people, not just in our political rhetoric, not just in policies, but in our day-to-day lives.

Sure.

Well, I certainly wasn't on vacation.

In fact, I was I was down here showing up for work like we all should have been.

Well, I don't think so.

But if I did, it was a work appearance.

I was being amongst my constituents.

Okay.

I do think that it is easy for people to turn on the news, open social media and just think nothing is happening in Congress.

And certainly not enough is happening in Congress.

A lot of bad things are happening in Congress with these majorities.

And there are some things that we are still able to do and we are still able to do together.