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And today on the show, the latest on efforts to end the war in Ukraine. Officials from the U.S. and Russia met today in Saudi Arabia in an effort to try and broker a deal. And Greg, that's where we will start. What do we know about these talks?

And today on the show, the latest on efforts to end the war in Ukraine. Officials from the U.S. and Russia met today in Saudi Arabia in an effort to try and broker a deal. And Greg, that's where we will start. What do we know about these talks?

And today on the show, the latest on efforts to end the war in Ukraine. Officials from the U.S. and Russia met today in Saudi Arabia in an effort to try and broker a deal. And Greg, that's where we will start. What do we know about these talks?

And, you know, typically when we think about something like a summit to end a war, especially a European war, this would be in a place like Switzerland or Norway. So why Saudi Arabia?

And, you know, typically when we think about something like a summit to end a war, especially a European war, this would be in a place like Switzerland or Norway. So why Saudi Arabia?

And, you know, typically when we think about something like a summit to end a war, especially a European war, this would be in a place like Switzerland or Norway. So why Saudi Arabia?

Right. And Franco, one of the many things Donald Trump said when he was campaigning was that he would end this war within 24 hours of taking office. That, of course, didn't happen. But what is the White House's endgame here?

Right. And Franco, one of the many things Donald Trump said when he was campaigning was that he would end this war within 24 hours of taking office. That, of course, didn't happen. But what is the White House's endgame here?

Right. And Franco, one of the many things Donald Trump said when he was campaigning was that he would end this war within 24 hours of taking office. That, of course, didn't happen. But what is the White House's endgame here?

And we should note, I mean, this is a conversation about Ukraine that is happening without the participation of Ukraine.

And we should note, I mean, this is a conversation about Ukraine that is happening without the participation of Ukraine.

And we should note, I mean, this is a conversation about Ukraine that is happening without the participation of Ukraine.

And without Zelensky there. All right. It's time for a break. When we come back, more on how U.S. policy toward Ukraine has shifted in the new administration. And welcome back. I want to talk about the shift in rhetoric from the Biden administration to the Trump administration when it comes to providing aid and military support for Ukraine. Vice President J.D.

And without Zelensky there. All right. It's time for a break. When we come back, more on how U.S. policy toward Ukraine has shifted in the new administration. And welcome back. I want to talk about the shift in rhetoric from the Biden administration to the Trump administration when it comes to providing aid and military support for Ukraine. Vice President J.D.