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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

People are worried about whether there's going to be an enduring relationship with China and Russia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And if you look at this picture, the relations look more glacial than cordial.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the little one's hauling on the arm of the big one.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And one wonders about that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So it turns out my expertise is on Russo-Chinese relations, and that's what I studied in graduate school.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

My dissertation was a history of their border from the Opium Wars in the mid-19th century until Outer Mongolia was snatched from the Chinese sphere of influence and parked in the Russian sphere in the 1920s.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It's fun to talk about this particular topic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Before I get going, I'm going to do some terminology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

I'm going to use the word Russia to refer to the czarist Soviet and modern periods, the same way that you use France to describe its many monarchies and many republics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

The Bolsheviks thought they were special, so they came up with special words for special people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Soviets, Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But it turns out they were temporary and Russia is the enduring thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So that's it on terminology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Before I speculate on what the future is going to look like, our only database that we have is whatever happened from this second backwards.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

What people call history, but it's just whatever is in the past.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

That's it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

That's our database.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And so I'm going to

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Look at when Russia was strong and China was weak from the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century, then the reversal of the power balance, and then in the recent period when China has been strong and Russia weak.

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