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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
8864 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

In the Eastern Bloc, they're for freedom from the Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And Gorbachev may have not gotten that detail.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

But they're all about not only wanting political freedoms, but also they're about crumbling economies of how to fix their miserable standards of living.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And very uncharacteristically, the Russians didn't send tanks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

In fact, Gorbachev welcomed and encouraged reforms in the Eastern Bloc, both political and economic, just as he was doing in the Soviet Union.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

So his idea of glasnost, openness, and perestroika, rebuilding, they resonated at home and abroad.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And these reforms began in Poland.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

Poland had been a scene of much worker unrest many times in 1956, 1970, 1976, and 80 and 81.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

In 80 and 81, this is when solidarity, the workers movement gets going and it gets a national and international reputation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

The next set of strikes are happening in 1988 because in the preceding several years, the Polish standard of living had shrunk by over 3%, and the government was out of cash and wanted to raise basic food prices, and polls hit the streets.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And the government was in a panic because it was worried the economy would go into freefall.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

So the government cut a deal with Solidarity, said, you call off the strikes,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And then we'll let you into political talks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And Solidary agreed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And there was a complicating factor on all of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

It's called the Roman Catholic Church, which is an institution of enormous credibility and legitimacy in Poland, which had a partiality for Solidarity, and it had a Polish pope.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

And so, the round cable discussions were these political talks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

They occurred a year later in February, 1989, and the Soviets encouraged them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

In fact, here's one Soviet person there advising the Poles, look, you gotta find some quick solutions out of your economic and political mess.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine โ€“ Why Russia Lost the Cold War

You're an itty-bitty country, so when you make mistakes, they'll be itty-bitty mistakes, but if we make them, they'll be big.