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Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So if you add up

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

All the territory that the Russians took from the Chinese sphere of influence from the 1858 Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking, fast forward to detaching outer Mongolia from the Chinese sphere of influence, here's what it really is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It's greater than all U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

territory east of the Mississippi.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

This is not your normal land ground.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So talk about derailing somebody.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

That would do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

To be fair to the Russians, they did, albeit slowly, turn over all this Japanese stockpiled military equipment in Manchuria, turned it over to the communists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they also, albeit belatedly, they trained them how to use the equipment and also how to run the Manchurian railway system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Chinese communists, as a rural peasant movement, how would they know how to do these things?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

They wouldn't.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it allows...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

this conventional aid and logistics of being able to move people around, it transforms the communists from a lightly armed guerrilla movement to a very heavily armed conventional forces capable for the showdown phase of the Chinese Civil War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So, like the Huangpuo Military Academy, this is essential aid for the communist victory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So, neither the communists or the nationalists complain about the deindustrialization of Manchuria.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the communists probably traded that industry for all the conventional aid that they got.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the nationalists are trading that and also outer Mongolian independence for a promise from Stalin not to aid the communists, which a promise that he promptly breaks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So Mao starts to figure out that something is up here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So when he's on a roll in his offensives in the Civil War, there's really bitter fighting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the real movement in the last phase, the post-1940 phase of the Chinese Civil War, is in 1948.