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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Very high mortality rates.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Before you dismiss this paradigm...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

You've seen it operating in real time in Syria and Ukraine.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

There are people who do this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it also explains why all those ancient ruins are ruins.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

This sort of warfare is ruinous.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

But anyway, it lies at the basis of many of the great civilizations of Eurasia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

This is how they did things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

All right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So I'm going to start my story in the mid-19th century, when the Chinese were beset by a whole series of rebellions that just about wrecked them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Russians take advantage of all of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Remember the second rule of continental empires, no great power neighbors.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Russians repeatedly derail the rise of China by scripting the Chinese to do things that are remarkably detrimental to Chinese interests, but pretty good for Russian interests.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it takes the Chinese a long time to figure it out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

They have governments coming and going in this period.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It's a difficult period, but they eventually figure it out by the time Mao reunifies China in 1949.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So I'm going to go through each of those examples in turn, starting with a really big one, which are the Opium Wars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

This is when Britain and France are coming at China in order to force China to trade on their terms.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And this corresponds with the two biggest rebellions of China's period of rebellions, the Taiping and the Nian Rebellion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So here's a big chart that's a simplified chart.