Sarah Paine

When you're doing it with bows and arrows, it takes a lot more time to create the mayhem.

So that's one thing, the ability just to wipe out people.

World War I...

on the Western Front was all entrenched.

On the Eastern Front, there was a great deal of movement, but on the Western Front, it was entrenched, which meant civilian populations weren't really touched by it.

Where the initial fighting, yeah, they're leveled, but once you get a trench, you're not.

And then we in the West don't actually study too much what happened to the civilians on the Eastern Front where it's moving around.

This is back to my half-court tennis, so we're not paying attention to those civilians.

So for the West, very few civilian casualties.

Whereas when you get to World War II, you're bombing people.

You know, technologies, you can get at people and invading.

Also, it's the lesson of World War I, the feeling that...

The Germans really hadn't felt their defeat and that allowed them to make up this story about how they weren't defeated, the Jews did it or whoever, they were betrayed.

Churchill and Roosevelt decided there would be a march to Berlin to disabuse them of that.

That involves killing a lot of civilians to get to Berlin.

Of course, the Russians were determined to pay back for what the Nazis had done to them.

And we had no sympathy for what we weren't going to, we're going to turn a blind eye to what the Russians were up to because the Nazis had been so heinous.

The whole war is brutal.

So they're doing a lot of hand-to-hand brutality, and part of it has to do with lack of equipment.

That firebombing of Tokyo happened in one night.