Sarah Paine

Well, they attacked us.

After the oil embargo.

Yeah, yeah.

Wait, wait, wait.

The Japanese are saying, we have the rights to your oil.

Excuse me.

We have the right to sell it or not sell it to anyone we feel like.

I mean, since when do they have the rights to it?

Okay, great.

So you're going to do all this crazy stuff and then still think we have to sell you oil?

And oh, by the way, this oil is being used to kill Chinese all over the place.

This is what their Japanese bombers are running on.

I'm telling you, I suspect the outcome wouldn't have been better, but I don't know, right?

And you're asking me things where...

My experience is I'm just a professor.

I just show up at seminar on time and I try to do reading and prep.

And my experience has not been in government, let alone at the highest echelons of government of what's feasible and what's not feasible.

And the answers I've given you are where I'm at, but I can't tell you more.

No, but you're looking at the United States as isolationist.

If you're Japanese and you're looking at these absolutely isolationist Americans, right, who are letting Britain, their closest ally, potentially go down to Nazis, right?