Sarah Paine

Another concept that I think is useful is limited versus unlimited objectives.

An unlimited objective is I want to do regime change in your country.

The most unlimited variety is that not only do I want to do regime change, but I want to kill all your people while I'm at it.

So if that is what your opposite number is planning, if you compromise with them, you are simply setting them up and putting them in a stronger position when they come at you for the final kill.

If they have limited objectives, then by all means, compromise with them and negotiate a way on what is it you want?

Just this little sliver of territory or you want some preferential treatment?

We can do that for you.

But yeah.

You're talking about a world order here, whether it's going to be based on laws increasingly or these opposing spheres of influence.

To keep pushing back on this.

I don't have an answer.

I've given you what little I can think of.

But hey, I'm not the grand profiteer in this world.

These questions you're asking me are way above my pay grade.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm all for it.

We teach by counterfactuals.

Replay it.

And can you come up with different options?

I think you're in a series of really awful options.