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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then Pakistan really would like it if the United States would be nice with China as well, because Pakistan wants to have good relations with the United States and China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And that's a non-starter for the United States until 1971, when there are secret visits and things going, it's later on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Okay, so in 1962, India gets trounced in this war with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

They look like they're militarily feckless.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then in 1964, Nehru dies, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

He'd been the head of India since independence in 1947.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

He'd been there a long time, so he's dead.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So 1965 for Pakistan, he looks like a good year to settle border problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so what they do is,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

is first they invade through the south, if you look way down at the bottom there, the Rana Kuch, and that seems to go pretty well, and then they decide they want to go for the thing they really care about, which is Kashmir, and they do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Well, the enemy gets the vote, and the Indians invaded straight through Lahore.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

which isn't remotely what the Pakistanis had in mind.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then the United States does a double arms embargo on both of them for doing this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And the problem is the Pakistanis are much more dependent on U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

military aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The Indians were more diversified, so they just didn't have enough spare parts to continue this thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So it's a very unhappy event for them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

They lose it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And what happens, neither the United States nor Russia wants either one of them fighting that war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The Russians are thinking, we want the military aid to go to India in order to counterbalance China, not to decimate the Pakistanis.