Sarah Paine

So if you take all these wars and just add up all the costs, and then think of the opportunity cost if Pakistan had been able to take this money and spend it on road systems, on education, and then all the lost trade, it gives you a sense of the real cost of all of this.

Okay, well, those are Pakistan's problems.

India has its own problems.

Here you've got Indira Gandhi and Richard Nixon.

They really didn't like each other.

I mean, look at her.

She looks as if she's just been fed bad fish and he looks like he served it up.

And they just, they cannot abide by each other.

So in the 1940s, when Kashmir is erupting,

Indira Gandhi thinks, well, no, it's Nehru, her dad, thinks that the United States should be supporting India because it's secular and it's democracy.

And the United States is appalled during the Korean War when India remains non-aligned instead of supporting the United States because it's secular and democratic.

And the Pakistanis are totally outraged because they're looking at this and go, okay, these Indians are non-aligned.

We're aligned.

We're taking these risks for Peshawar and stuff with the U2s.

And you're helping these people who are about to ally with the Soviet Union?

Who are you kidding?

So it's a total mess.

So the Indians have their own self-inflicted blows.

Nehru and his very controversial but his devoted advisor Krishna Menon and his daughter Indira Gandhi were really good at making these totally insulting remarks to American VIPs.

Okay, it hits the target without a doubt, but the ego that has just been hit is huge and like an elephant is not about to forget.