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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And if you're going, well, what are the origins of these differences?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Partition was brutal.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So the British colonized the Indian subcontinent, and then they left in 1947, and they left really rapidly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

so that there was no time to set up any institutional framework.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And also you're talking millions of people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so Pakistan's gonna be one thing and then India's gonna be the other.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so Hindus are just fleeing, and Sikhs are fleeing out of Pakistan, and Muslims are fleeing out of India, going back and forth, and millions are killed while this is going on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So this is the origin, at least the modern origin, of why Pakistanis and Indians are so bitter.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

In addition, the United States thought, well, surely the China threat is going to make the Indians come around and realize this non-aligned stuff's nonsense.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Not quite.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

When India, what is it, aligns, it aligns with Russia, not the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So that doesn't remotely work out the way the United States wanted.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then the United States thought, well, hey, we in the West were rich.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

We give Indians and Pakistanis all this aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

This'll force them to be nice to us and be less nice to the communists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Wrong.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

India and Pakistan are really astute and they get lots of aid from everybody.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So when the great powers do align, Russia, China, us, or at least two of those align, then you can actually get stuff done.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So that's when you get the Tashkent Agreement for the 1965 war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

This is the United States and Russia both want India and Pakistan to cease and desist and stop blowing each other off the map.