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Sarah Paine

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And also in the Kargil conflict, when Pakistan is yet again trying to resolve Kashmir by invading and then gets itself into trouble,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And this guy, Nawaz Sharif, who was the head of Pakistan, he all of a sudden gets on a plane with his family, it looks like he's coming into exile, and he's trying to fly into the United States.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The United States go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you think you're doing?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And says, you're not coming in here until you admit that you crossed the line of control, and then you need to get right back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And so he agrees to sign the Washington agreement to go right back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But it's absolutely humiliating for the Pakistanis to go, oh, yeah, we went south of the line of control.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then, well, that didn't work out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So now we have to go right back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

He had gone to China first.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

already and pleaded his case to the Chinese.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And they told him to get right back because there was a lot of nuclear saber rattling going on and the Chinese were not interested in nuclear war over this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So Pakistan had the choice of, okay, fight India by your lonesome or cross back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So they crossed back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And there were other cases in the inter-co-war period when the great powers cooperated and tamped things down like terrorist incidents in New Delhi and in Mumbai that didn't go anywhere because the great powers told the Indians and the Pakistanis to just dial it back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

All right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Another thing you can do is to publicly support someone.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And this is what goes on with Goa, which is a Portuguese colony.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The Indians wanted it back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The Portuguese said, no way, you cannot have it back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And the Indians took it back, and the United States supported Portugal.