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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Why?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It's a NATO ally, and we have very important bases in Portugal.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So we kept the bases, but we made the Indians really angry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And there are other areas of public support or not criticizing people publicly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

For instance, in the 1971 Bangladesh War, when the United States refuses to support India by telling China, don't enter this place.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

But of course, it was December, so the road system would have been a little rough to even try that, but it made the Indians mad.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Or if you think during the Cold War,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So with Nehru, it's the 1956 Hungarian crisis where the Russians sent tanks into Hungary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The Indians don't say anything about that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

There's a Berlin crisis in 1961 where the Russians are pretty rough and the Indians don't say anything about that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then Indira Gandhi comes in and when the Russians sent tanks into Czechoslovakia in 1968, the Indians say nothing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then when the Russians invade Afghanistan in 79, again, the Indians say nothing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So this is one way that you make your allies feel better about things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Another thing is if you're one of the five veto holders at the UN Security Council, you can do your public support that way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And I've already mentioned these Russian vetoes on Kashmiri plebiscites that the Indians truly didn't want to have happen or short-circuiting the Indian offensive in Bangladesh.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So this is what Russia did for India, and it was a very valuable thing for them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

You can also put money where your mouth is, economic aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And it's interesting, the United States provided far more economic aid than either the Russians or the Chinese, but still both Pakistanis and Indians preferred China and Russia, respectively.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And some of this aid was really important.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

During the Bihar famine in 1967, the United States sent 20% of its wheat crop to India.