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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And India just, even Indira Gandhi, who hates Nixon, she's racking up the aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Secretary of State John Foster Dulles saying, well, concerning India and Pakistan, it's difficult to help one.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

without making the any of the other.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And of course the United States tried to help both and angered both of them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Amazing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So, another instrument of national power is military aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

It is even more difficult to calibrate than the economic aid.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So you can see with the Pactomania event where

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Eisenhower is building these bilateral relations and treaty organizations to contain the Russians.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Formerly there'd been no Cold War in South Asia, but once Eisenhower allies with Pakistan, all of a sudden the Russians are in there too.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So that's a bit of a boomerang.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

Another one, so when the United States provides military aid to Pakistan, that just drives India to seeking an alliance with Russia, which isn't exactly what the United States wanted.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then when the United States helps India right after the 1962 war with China, that alienates the Pakistanis and then they try to buddy-buddy with China, not remotely what the United States wanted to happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then when the United States provides aid to the ISI, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, which is the Pakistanis and are funding things to get the Russians out of Afghanistan, they're also diverting it into Kashmir.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So in 1989, this insurgency heats up and it's remained heated ever since.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

And then you wind up with China providing nuclear help to the Pakistanis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

So it's difficult with these things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

You get a short-term thing, but then the long-term thing that winds up may not be what you want at all.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

The other instrument of national power, if you got one, is carrier battle group.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine Episode 1: The War For India (Lecture & Interview)

You can send one of those around, which is what the United States did.