Sarah Paine

So they got a long way to go on that one.

Well, first of all, the Cold War is a misnomer because the bloodshed in the third world was horrendous.

And I will eventually compile the stats on this.

Not that they're great stats, but it's obscene numbers.

I think Congo had a civil war where literally over 10 million people died there.

And that's only just one of these things.

So the United States cannot deal with all of these.

And if you think about it, the time when the United States was really quite idealistic, the Iraq War goes in, they create democracy in this place.

So it's a massive civil war, and then we're blamed for it.

So be careful about where you intervene, because you may not be able to stop a thing, and then you'll get blamed for what's going on.

So Bangladesh is horrible, but it is not our...

You will get overextended if you intervene in everything under the planet.

Also, there's a question of why the United States or anyone should be doing all of it.

Shouldn't it be through the UN and other things?

The really key thing was winning the Cold War.

So Nixon absolutely did prioritize getting the mail through to Mao.

He did.

So 1971, good old Henry Hack, as he's known in the archives, Henry A. Kissinger,

he gets his secret trip in there, lines up Nixon's trip in 72, and then it's going to overextend Russia in the Cold War.

Why?