Sarah Paine

They're having, I think, some Bulgaria, maybe East Germany as well.

They've got problems.

So they don't want to deal with the Korean War anymore.

It's like, who cares?

Forget about it.

So you would be guaranteed that, which might be highly beneficial for Ukraine.

But knowing Putin, he's an evil man.

He'll probably stick around forever.

Oh, it's a miracle we're all here.

I think in the Cuban Missile Crisis, it came down to—

Soviet subcaptain.

They had like the political commissar, the military commissar.

I have to reread this, but I don't know whether he needed a vote of two out of three to launch a nuclear weapon or whether one guy was senior and you have to get him to come along.

I have to read the data.

But basically, someone put their foot down in the Soviet sub not to launch a nuke.

Okay, we lucked out of that one.

And then I think under Reagan, there was an Able Archer missile test

or we were doing a war game or something.

And the Russians looked at it and thought it was the real thing for a while.

And that just scared the bejesus out of them.