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Sarah Paine

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And this is where nationalism comes in.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the Chinese Communist Party and the Russians likewise are trying to use jingoistic nationalism to stoke up popular loyalties and also to deflect people from domestic problems to go, oh, look at the hated outsiders, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they aren't the only country to do this sort of thing is you blame outsiders.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It's all the immigrants fault or whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And the problem with all of this, when the Chinese did it, right after the Tiananmen massacre, the Chinese Communist Party decided to rewrite all the textbooks so they're no longer going to focus on class enemies, but they're going to be focused, to use jingoistic nationalism, they're going to focus on evil Japanese, evil Americans, and focus things that way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Well, the problem with nationalism is

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It's a very heady drink.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

If you imbibe too much, it clouds the judgment.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

Moreover, it repels minority people within China's empire who are not interested in Han nationalism.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

It frightens neighbors to coordinate with each other and find big powers to counterbalance this mess.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And it also impedes the de-escalation of unforeseen international dust-ups or crises.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

With Putin's latest adventures, one would assume that the Chinese have some real thoughts about what's going on now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And in Putin's case, he has thrown away the Soviet addendum to the rules for Continental Empire.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

What was that one?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

No hot wars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

If you think about Soviet rulers, they were all veterans of World War II through Leonid Brezhnev.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they understood that war is easy to get into, hard to get out of, very unpredictable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

So for them, it was proxy wars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

And they loved it when the United States got into hot wars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sarah Paine – How Russia sabotaged China's rise

What is not to like about the Korean War and the Vietnam War, where the United States just tied down and Americans tearing each other's eyes out about these things?