Sarah Rainsford

delete femicide from society, that you have to tackle the problem at its roots.

And in Italy, it is a very unequal society.

You know, the macho culture is alive and kicking.

And I should just mention one thing.

In the last few days, there's a school near my house in Rome.

And I suddenly noticed that that school was smeared with graffiti all over the front about macho men and kind of

Lots of feminist graffiti.

And I then discovered that actually there was a big scandal in this school because some boy, a boy in the school had written on the wall in the toilets, a list, he called it a rape list.

And there was a list of girls' names.

Oh, good.

So there's this huge scandal in this school and now in another school as well in Italy.

The girls who are on the list have actually some of them come out and spoken publicly and say it happened because they were speaking out for women's rights and for their rights as young women in Italy.

But I think it just shows you that, you know, the problem of education, the problem in the schools and the problem of young people, you know, is the real focus now very much in Italian society.

And that debate is very alive.

So it has certainly ignited that debate.

My pleasure.

Thanks for having me.

We're in front of a case now, the new royalty. What's this?

We're in front of a case now, the new royalty. What's this?

Do they feel conflicted as well, given the provenance of some of the jewels, given the wealth?