Sarah Wildman

That makes me sad, Orly, for you to say that, but I mean.

I wanted to do that interview with her because I had actually just written a piece about how she had used TikTok despite my...

I wanted to do that interview with her because I had actually just written a piece about how she had used TikTok despite my...

I wanted to do that interview with her because I had actually just written a piece about how she had used TikTok despite my...

reluctance about how incredibly public a TikTok account could be and did become, but also because I wanted people to see what it meant to be a kid in cancer care, a really articulate kid, a kid who was really grappling with it and thinking about it and considering it, especially at a time in the of lockdown, really feeling quite sorry for themselves.

reluctance about how incredibly public a TikTok account could be and did become, but also because I wanted people to see what it meant to be a kid in cancer care, a really articulate kid, a kid who was really grappling with it and thinking about it and considering it, especially at a time in the of lockdown, really feeling quite sorry for themselves.

reluctance about how incredibly public a TikTok account could be and did become, but also because I wanted people to see what it meant to be a kid in cancer care, a really articulate kid, a kid who was really grappling with it and thinking about it and considering it, especially at a time in the of lockdown, really feeling quite sorry for themselves.

And what Orly does in that interview, in addition to sort of winning over everyone who watches it, is to sort of realign the way people are thinking about their own sadness, their own sense of isolation, and to show how she was so joyful even during extremely hard experiences.

And what Orly does in that interview, in addition to sort of winning over everyone who watches it, is to sort of realign the way people are thinking about their own sadness, their own sense of isolation, and to show how she was so joyful even during extremely hard experiences.

And what Orly does in that interview, in addition to sort of winning over everyone who watches it, is to sort of realign the way people are thinking about their own sadness, their own sense of isolation, and to show how she was so joyful even during extremely hard experiences.

I think it did. It also allowed us a different kind of focus. When you're chatting with your kid, you're often multitasking. You're making dinner, you're driving, you're getting them from one place to another. And a focus 30 or 40 minutes where you're asking question after question, waiting for the answer. It's sort of an unusual format for parent and child.

I think it did. It also allowed us a different kind of focus. When you're chatting with your kid, you're often multitasking. You're making dinner, you're driving, you're getting them from one place to another. And a focus 30 or 40 minutes where you're asking question after question, waiting for the answer. It's sort of an unusual format for parent and child.

I think it did. It also allowed us a different kind of focus. When you're chatting with your kid, you're often multitasking. You're making dinner, you're driving, you're getting them from one place to another. And a focus 30 or 40 minutes where you're asking question after question, waiting for the answer. It's sort of an unusual format for parent and child.

It's just not exactly how it goes, you know, outside of how is school? Tell me something interesting. Who did you sit with at lunch? And in this context, it also allowed us a total lack of distraction. A lot of the time we have our phones on us. Something is dinging. You say, let me just quickly check this text. And both of us had to put aside all devices and just focus on this question.

It's just not exactly how it goes, you know, outside of how is school? Tell me something interesting. Who did you sit with at lunch? And in this context, it also allowed us a total lack of distraction. A lot of the time we have our phones on us. Something is dinging. You say, let me just quickly check this text. And both of us had to put aside all devices and just focus on this question.

It's just not exactly how it goes, you know, outside of how is school? Tell me something interesting. Who did you sit with at lunch? And in this context, it also allowed us a total lack of distraction. A lot of the time we have our phones on us. Something is dinging. You say, let me just quickly check this text. And both of us had to put aside all devices and just focus on this question.

Did she have difficult questions for you over the years that you had trouble answering? Yes. She would often ask me, starting at the very beginning, had I ever experienced pain like she was experiencing? And at first I said, well, I've had two pregnancies and two rounds of childbirth that long labors that ended in C-sections, I thought I understood pain.

Did she have difficult questions for you over the years that you had trouble answering? Yes. She would often ask me, starting at the very beginning, had I ever experienced pain like she was experiencing? And at first I said, well, I've had two pregnancies and two rounds of childbirth that long labors that ended in C-sections, I thought I understood pain.

Did she have difficult questions for you over the years that you had trouble answering? Yes. She would often ask me, starting at the very beginning, had I ever experienced pain like she was experiencing? And at first I said, well, I've had two pregnancies and two rounds of childbirth that long labors that ended in C-sections, I thought I understood pain.

But she was facing a kind of pain I realized I really had never encountered. And I didn't know anyone who had encountered a physical pain. And she would sometimes ask me, What do you think I did to deserve this? And of course, that's not an answerable question. There was nothing. And it really challenged us to look at this question of, is there such a thing as deserving pain?