Sasha Pfeiffer
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These are massive, primitive tent camps in northeast Syria. They hold about 35,000 people at this point from more than 60 countries. It's mainly the wives and widows of ISIS militants and their kids. They're officially called displacement camps, but they essentially function as detention centers, barbed wire, Little health care or schooling, high rates of violence.
These are massive, primitive tent camps in northeast Syria. They hold about 35,000 people at this point from more than 60 countries. It's mainly the wives and widows of ISIS militants and their kids. They're officially called displacement camps, but they essentially function as detention centers, barbed wire, Little health care or schooling, high rates of violence.
These are massive, primitive tent camps in northeast Syria. They hold about 35,000 people at this point from more than 60 countries. It's mainly the wives and widows of ISIS militants and their kids. They're officially called displacement camps, but they essentially function as detention centers, barbed wire, Little health care or schooling, high rates of violence.
And some of the women there are still loyal to ISIS, so the camps are not considered safe places. So if that's the case, what's the motivation to let people out? The camps are considered a humanitarian catastrophe. So some countries feel an obligation to end that situation by taking back their citizens.
And some of the women there are still loyal to ISIS, so the camps are not considered safe places. So if that's the case, what's the motivation to let people out? The camps are considered a humanitarian catastrophe. So some countries feel an obligation to end that situation by taking back their citizens.
And some of the women there are still loyal to ISIS, so the camps are not considered safe places. So if that's the case, what's the motivation to let people out? The camps are considered a humanitarian catastrophe. So some countries feel an obligation to end that situation by taking back their citizens.
And Michelle, there's also a concern that if people remain there, especially kids, they could become a new generation of terrorists. One person I spoke with who worries about that kind of radicalization is a former U.S. ambassador named Peter Galbraith. He has helped get many kids out of those camps, and here he is.
And Michelle, there's also a concern that if people remain there, especially kids, they could become a new generation of terrorists. One person I spoke with who worries about that kind of radicalization is a former U.S. ambassador named Peter Galbraith. He has helped get many kids out of those camps, and here he is.
And Michelle, there's also a concern that if people remain there, especially kids, they could become a new generation of terrorists. One person I spoke with who worries about that kind of radicalization is a former U.S. ambassador named Peter Galbraith. He has helped get many kids out of those camps, and here he is.
And Michelle, the current Trump State Department calls it a high priority, its words, to try to shrink these camps. I will note that some European countries have resisted taking back ISIS family members, even kids, because they worry they're a safety risk. But the U.S. says the greater risk is leaving them there and that these children are innocent victims of mistakes made by their parents.
And Michelle, the current Trump State Department calls it a high priority, its words, to try to shrink these camps. I will note that some European countries have resisted taking back ISIS family members, even kids, because they worry they're a safety risk. But the U.S. says the greater risk is leaving them there and that these children are innocent victims of mistakes made by their parents.
And Michelle, the current Trump State Department calls it a high priority, its words, to try to shrink these camps. I will note that some European countries have resisted taking back ISIS family members, even kids, because they worry they're a safety risk. But the U.S. says the greater risk is leaving them there and that these children are innocent victims of mistakes made by their parents.
In the case of adults, they get repatriated to their home countries and sometimes end up being prosecuted for their involvement with ISIS. The two kids I met are fortunate because they have grandparents in the U.S. Their dad grew up in Minnesota. When he was 18, he quietly left his family and joined ISIS after being recruited on social media. Then he became a father while he was overseas.
In the case of adults, they get repatriated to their home countries and sometimes end up being prosecuted for their involvement with ISIS. The two kids I met are fortunate because they have grandparents in the U.S. Their dad grew up in Minnesota. When he was 18, he quietly left his family and joined ISIS after being recruited on social media. Then he became a father while he was overseas.
In the case of adults, they get repatriated to their home countries and sometimes end up being prosecuted for their involvement with ISIS. The two kids I met are fortunate because they have grandparents in the U.S. Their dad grew up in Minnesota. When he was 18, he quietly left his family and joined ISIS after being recruited on social media. Then he became a father while he was overseas.
Eventually, he surrendered and was jailed, and his children got put in these Syrian camps we're talking about. And the kids, where are they now? They're 8 and 10 years old, living with their grandparents outside Minneapolis. Getting them back to the U.S. took a lot of work by the American government. But the U.S.
Eventually, he surrendered and was jailed, and his children got put in these Syrian camps we're talking about. And the kids, where are they now? They're 8 and 10 years old, living with their grandparents outside Minneapolis. Getting them back to the U.S. took a lot of work by the American government. But the U.S.
Eventually, he surrendered and was jailed, and his children got put in these Syrian camps we're talking about. And the kids, where are they now? They're 8 and 10 years old, living with their grandparents outside Minneapolis. Getting them back to the U.S. took a lot of work by the American government. But the U.S.
considers this family a model for how to help clear out those camps and keep families together. This is their grandfather, Ahmed, who asked that we not use his last name because he's concerned about the security of his family.
considers this family a model for how to help clear out those camps and keep families together. This is their grandfather, Ahmed, who asked that we not use his last name because he's concerned about the security of his family.