Sat Shaw

But the reality of the National Hockey League, guys, and you guys know this as well as anybody, everyone's playing hurt.

You got to figure out how to...

overcome.

And yes, sometimes you have injuries that are so debilitating, it really limits you.

But name me a hockey player who's a great player over 82 games that's not dealing with something over the course of the year.

And I think internally, there's a sense that, yes, he might be hurt sometimes.

And sometimes there are things that he has to find a way to push through.

And is he a player who can handle...

playing at a high level if everything's not right.

Because I think whether it's mentally, physically, the overall environment, things have to align for EP40 to be at its best.

But the way the world works is things aren't always going to align for you to always be at your best.

You have to find ways to overcome.

So I think it's a very convoluted overall situation.

And I do think the whole locker room dynamic and how things fell apart over the past few years also, I think, hurt his confidence and his overall swagger with how he handles and deals with things.

So I think it is partly physical, but more than anything else,

when I look at his issues and how he's not in the battle, to your point, the same way he had been in the past, that to me tells me it's, whatever's going on, it's between the ears.

It's a big picket.

It is.

Well, that's the thing.

I think what you're selling is the fact that he's still young enough and he's shown the ceiling.