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Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Once you start crossing pre-training data center boundaries, is it that different than anything else?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So therefore, so the way I think about it is, hey, distributed computing will remain distributed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So go build out your fleet such that

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It's ready for large training jobs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It's ready for test time compute.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

It's ready.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

In fact, if this RL thing, the thing that might happen is you build one large model, and then after that, there's tons of this RL going on and test.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

To me, it's kind of like, again, more training flops, because you want to create these highly specialized distilled models for different tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So you want that fleet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And then the serving needs, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

At the end of the day, speed of light is speed of light.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So you can't sort of have one data center in Texas and say, I'm going to serve the world from there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

You got to serve the world based on having an inference fleet everywhere in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

So that's kind of how I think of our build out a true hyperscale fleet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

Oh, and by the way, I want my storage and compute also close to all of these things because it's not just

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

AI accelerators that are stateless because I need to be able to have not just my training data itself needs storage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

And then I want to be able to multiplex multiple training jobs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella – Microsoft’s AGI Plan & Quantum Breakthrough

I want to be able to then have memory.