Satya Nadella

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Dwarkesh Podcast · Satya Nadella — Microsoft’s AGI plan & quantum breakthrough · 19 Feb 2025 podcast

AI is like an emulator of the simulator.

Quantum is like a simulator of nature.

What is quantum going to do?

By the way, quantum is not going to replace classical.

Quantum is great at what quantum can do.

Quantum is going to be fantastic for anything that is not data heavy, but it's got more exploration heavy in terms of the state space, which is it should be data light,

but exponential states that you want to explore.

And simulation is a great one, chemical, physics, what have you, biology.

So one of the things that we've started doing is really using AI as the emulation engine

But you can then train.

So the way I think of it as, you know, if you have AI plus quantum, maybe you will use quantum to generate synthetic data that then gets used by AI to train better models that know how to model something like chemistry or physics or what have you.

And these two things will get used together.

So even today, that's kind of effectively what we're doing with the combination of HPC and AI.

And I hope to replace some of the HPC pieces with quantum computers.

The thing that, you know, I feel which was fantastic is what Bill sort of when he started MSR back in 95, I guess, you know, it's like, look, I think in the long history of these curiosity-driven research organizations to just sort of just do a research org that...

is about fundamental research.

And MSR over the years has built up that institutional strength.

So when I even think about capital allocation or budgets or what have you, you kind of sort of first put the chips in and say, hey, look, here is MSR's budget.

And we got to go at it each year, knowing that most of these bets are not going to pay off in any finite timeframe.

It may be the sixth CEO of Microsoft who will benefit from it.

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