Saul Grover
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
I woke up on the 7th of February, 2020. We were in beta testing phases. So a handful of women around the world knew about it. The app was still full of bugs. The security wasn't in place yet. It wasn't ready to be launched. It was close, but it wasn't ready. And I woke up to thousands upon thousands of one-star reviews in the App Store and Google Play saying, you're a transphobe.
I woke up on the 7th of February, 2020. We were in beta testing phases. So a handful of women around the world knew about it. The app was still full of bugs. The security wasn't in place yet. It wasn't ready to be launched. It was close, but it wasn't ready. And I woke up to thousands upon thousands of one-star reviews in the App Store and Google Play saying, you're a transphobe.
I woke up on the 7th of February, 2020. We were in beta testing phases. So a handful of women around the world knew about it. The app was still full of bugs. The security wasn't in place yet. It wasn't ready to be launched. It was close, but it wasn't ready. And I woke up to thousands upon thousands of one-star reviews in the App Store and Google Play saying, you're a transphobe.
You've known what you did wrong. You're a TERF. I'd never heard the word TERF before. I had to Google it. I just got sort of thrown into this absolutely insane world. And I remember saying to my mom, So, you know, we were completely canceled. I didn't realize how much, but it was as bad as it could be really. But in my optimism at the time and thinking, and just going, this is so stupid.
You've known what you did wrong. You're a TERF. I'd never heard the word TERF before. I had to Google it. I just got sort of thrown into this absolutely insane world. And I remember saying to my mom, So, you know, we were completely canceled. I didn't realize how much, but it was as bad as it could be really. But in my optimism at the time and thinking, and just going, this is so stupid.
You've known what you did wrong. You're a TERF. I'd never heard the word TERF before. I had to Google it. I just got sort of thrown into this absolutely insane world. And I remember saying to my mom, So, you know, we were completely canceled. I didn't realize how much, but it was as bad as it could be really. But in my optimism at the time and thinking, and just going, this is so stupid.
I was like, this will blow over in a few months.
I was like, this will blow over in a few months.
I was like, this will blow over in a few months.
This has completely turned my life upside down. It really actually wasn't until I got the AHRC complaint that I realized that there was nothing I could say, no amount of kindness or just trying to find ways with this group, this demographic of people that would make them rational. The premise is so absurd and it is enough to sort of make you to drive you insane or make you feel insane.
This has completely turned my life upside down. It really actually wasn't until I got the AHRC complaint that I realized that there was nothing I could say, no amount of kindness or just trying to find ways with this group, this demographic of people that would make them rational. The premise is so absurd and it is enough to sort of make you to drive you insane or make you feel insane.
This has completely turned my life upside down. It really actually wasn't until I got the AHRC complaint that I realized that there was nothing I could say, no amount of kindness or just trying to find ways with this group, this demographic of people that would make them rational. The premise is so absurd and it is enough to sort of make you to drive you insane or make you feel insane.
So you just sit there and some, some days I have to remind myself, like I'm 100% right. Like I know in my bones that I'm right.
So you just sit there and some, some days I have to remind myself, like I'm 100% right. Like I know in my bones that I'm right.
So you just sit there and some, some days I have to remind myself, like I'm 100% right. Like I know in my bones that I'm right.
The decision that we got in Tickle V. Giggle was that sex is changeable, which is obviously wrong. Sex is not changeable. However, and the judge also didn't have to go so broad with that. I mean, the question on the table was gender identity discrimination, and somehow he got to sex is changeable from that. But What he is essentially talking about is this concept of legal sex.
The decision that we got in Tickle V. Giggle was that sex is changeable, which is obviously wrong. Sex is not changeable. However, and the judge also didn't have to go so broad with that. I mean, the question on the table was gender identity discrimination, and somehow he got to sex is changeable from that. But What he is essentially talking about is this concept of legal sex.
The decision that we got in Tickle V. Giggle was that sex is changeable, which is obviously wrong. Sex is not changeable. However, and the judge also didn't have to go so broad with that. I mean, the question on the table was gender identity discrimination, and somehow he got to sex is changeable from that. But What he is essentially talking about is this concept of legal sex.
We need to get legal sex out of legislation for there to be any sort of sex-based rights for women and for men, because there are sex-based rights that exist for men as well. But it's also freedom of speech, freedom of belief and freedom of association.
We need to get legal sex out of legislation for there to be any sort of sex-based rights for women and for men, because there are sex-based rights that exist for men as well. But it's also freedom of speech, freedom of belief and freedom of association.