Savannah Guthrie

the most guilty about, but either way, these people, these two ended up these great people, uh, who are, who are going out in the world.

So I guess the thing I would reclaim is, uh, is, is, is me, my, you know, guilt about, about being gone for chunks of time and, and not being the

The dad who was always home, particularly in the last few years.

So I guess I guess that's what it would be.

And say like, oh, this is what I must look like or what my career must look like.

I don't think my stuff would even sit well there.

It's a much more intimate thing that I'm engaged in.

But I think just really letting success be a little simpler than I defined it.

But it's kind of a sad indictment that you have to do a podcast in order to get a proper chat, isn't it?

No, no.

Why are you here right now?

Well, I'm glad you did, but why?

Okay, well, if you're in the car, it's joy.

Because I got to tell you, normally at this hour, joy is in scarce supply.

It's your partner.