Savon

Right.

You know what I mean?

And what he said he did to them kids, to a juror, that could sound hyper-specific.

And then on top of the fact that this is a juror that... Because he said that in enough songs to where I can't just assume that that's not what gutter was doing.

But that's the point.

Let's say he's never kidding.

He put that shit in a secret Juicy verse.

He was just saying that shit.

And man, yo, did I tell you about gutter?

I don't know what Mark's saying.

Or a 47-year-old podcaster.

If I hear that shit in the right... It's different.

You come from North Philly, but... I'm with you, but I'm just saying, even for me, if I hear something at this age, I'm like, why don't...

I might believe it.

I might not use it against them in court because I don't want that to be the precedent.

But I'm just saying the average person, you don't even got to be white and racist or white and suburban.

Take racism off the table.

You don't even have to be white and disconnected from our culture.

You could just be an adult that's like, why the fuck are you rapping about killing people and putting in songs?

Like that shit is probably, they just think you're a dickhead.