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Scott Alexander

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4620 total appearances

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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

And tent encampments are hard to measure nationally.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

In San Francisco, they are below pre-pandemic levels.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

All of this is compatible with a story where disorder levels mostly track crime levels.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

rising from 1970 to 1990, declining from 1990 to 2020, and rising a little after 2020.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Crime began falling again around 2023, but the evidence on disorder, while too spotty to say for sure, doesn't seem to include such a reversal.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

So here are three theories of perceived rise in disorder.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Theory one, these concerns stem from the small compared to secular trends bump in these problems around 2020.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Since then, crime in tent cities have declined, but people still haven't updated because of a combination of lag time and maybe some other forms of disorder still increasing.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

This feels wrong to me.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

People aren't comparing the present to the golden age of 2019, they're comparing it to the golden age of their parents' and grandparents' generation.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

So let's take a longer view.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Modern disorder was effectively impossible before 1950.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

There was little litter.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Cheap packaging and disposable bottles had not yet entered into common use.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

There was no graffiti.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Spray paint had not yet been invented.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

There were no boom boxes.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

They hadn't been invented either.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

There were no cheap polyester tents.