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Scott Alexander

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Appearances Over Time

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Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

There was no pot smoke, although marijuana was known to science it hadn't yet entered common use.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Then there was a surge in all these bad things, starting with litter in the 1950s and continuing to cheap boomboxes around 1990.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

But this happened at the same time as the 1960s race riots, and white people fled to the suburbs and didn't encounter the urban environments where these problems were worst.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Around 2000, when the direction of white flight reversed and became gentrification, white people moved back to the cities, experienced the urban environment for the first time, and awareness of these problems rose.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

This still doesn't quite cash out to a secular rise in squalor and disorder.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Murder rates in 1900 were still higher than today, and although there was no plastic waste, the streets of turn-of-the-20th-century cities were, quote, Let's sharpen our focus.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Here's a graph.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Homicide rate and year-over-year percent change in homicide, 1900 to 2025.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

It does indeed show a big dip between about 1935 and about 1974.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

It's captioned, data on property crimes is worse but suggestive of the same pattern.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

What caused this local minimum in crime?

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Claude suggests a combination of low Depression-era birth rates, small cohort of adolescents in peak crime years, the wartime economy and post-war economic boom, high psychiatric institutionalisation rates, and, quote, cultural and social cohesion, end quote, in the wake of World War II.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

But none of these explain why the trend should start in 1933, nor reach then-record lows by 1939.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Nor does it explain why we should update so strongly on this unique period that we still feel cheated 60 years later when things aren't quite as good.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Maybe this is just the way of things.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The Romans were constantly complaining about their failure to equal golden ages centuries in the past.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Still, I find it helpful to remember that although things are worse than the best they've ever been, except murder, murder might actually be beating 1950s record lows, they're not so bad by the standard of average historical periods.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

Finally, theory four.

Astral Codex Ten Podcast
Crime As Proxy For Disorder

The squalor and disorder of the past took different forms than the squalor and disorder of the present.