Scott Carney

That's a legitimately horrible story.

Uh, so yeah, I don't know why we need fiction when you have like a true, true.

Seems unlikely.

Seems unlikely.

I very intentionally looked only on the supply side of the chain.

And the reason for that is

Actually, maybe in India, I did speak to a few recipients, but I wrote mostly I wrote primarily about the people giving it up because you enter into this very ethically complex situation when you when you

The reason this organ market thrives is because of the idea that you're saving a life, not that you're taking a life, right?

There's always this happy story in organ transplant news articles.

You read these all the time.

The gift of life occurs in a number of ways.

This organ donor saved all these lives.

And you get the positive story rammed down your throat all the time in the mainstream press.

It's the most overriding narrative.

What is not talked about is the procurement narrative.

And I wanted the red market to look all on the supply side of this because it's too easy to get into moral ambiguity.

And when you have people who are really being taken advantage of, who are really, really suffering because of the organ markets, the happy story on the other side is a distraction because it's saying, oh, but there's a way that this is all okay.

You know, in the

You know, with the surrogate story that I talked about, you know, I did meet a woman in San Francisco.

I met her also in India who had received who had bought, I guess, rented a surrogate womb in India and then got the kid to come back to America.