Scott Carney

And then I just kept on looking at organ markets.

It's so funny that we're talking about this because this is like literally 20 years ago that I was doing all this stuff.

But I look at kidneys, I look at human hair, eggs, surrogate wombs.

I got human surrogacy sort of outlawed in India because there was a time when Americans would fly to India, they would impregnate somebody with IVF.

And then they'd lock the woman in a room for nine months to gestate.

And then they would, you know, have the baby and the American would come back and take the baby home.

I got that made legal in India, which is, I guess, sort of like the one thing I've done that's made the world a better place.

Yeah, that's obviously a TV episode.

That's not how the organ trade works.

And, you know, that's one thing that I think is really important to separate fact from fiction because the waking up in the bathtub full of ice, the tourist that goes to Tijuana, you know, there's a honey trap and then they

If you don't have to get the police involved, you don't get the police involved.

There's not a big kidnapping market when you can offer somebody money to do it.

You find someone who's very desperate.

You don't wanna go after Americans

where we have a legal system that, you know, it's not great, but it does, you know, try to look for these things.

And that's a pretty shocking crime in that sense.

And usually the criminals try to choose the least risky method to do their activities.

Although I will say that the caveat is that sometimes they're pretty sneaky about it.

In Bangalore, so this is, it's now called Bangaluru, it's a South Indian city.

In the 90s, 80s and 90s, more than a thousand kidneys were stolen at hospitals