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citizens who criticize and protest the federal government and its policies.

NPR's Jude Joffe Block and Meg Anderson have been digging into this, and they are joining us now.

Hey there.

So Meg, I want to start with you.

Tell us what you have heard from people who have had interactions with immigration officers.

Okay, so those are the tactics that people are seeing in person.

Jude, let me ask you, what do we know about how technology is being used to do things like this?

And license plate information seems like just the beginning of all of this, and it's worth flagging these efforts have gotten a lot of funding under this administration, right?

OK, Meg, one other question is what's happening online?

On that note, what legal implications do all of these surveillance tools raise?

And Jude, what did DHS say about all of this?

That was NPR's Jude Jaffe-Block and Meg Anderson.

Thanks to you both.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Reporting from NPR's Kat Lonsdorf contributed to this story.

This episode was produced by Gabriel Sanchez and Karen Zamora with audio engineering by Ted Meeby.

It was edited by Alina Hartunian, John Ketchum, and Sarah Handel.

Our executive producer is Sammy Yannigan.

It's Consider This from NPR.