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What is it like to be caught up in DHS's surveillance web?

It's Consider This from NPR.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement is using a variety of tools to surveil people they want to intimidate and apprehend.

That web helps federal agents find people they want to deport, but it also allows them to identify U.S.

citizens who criticize and protest the federal government and its policies.

NPR's Jude Joffe Block and Meg Anderson have been digging into this, and they are joining us now.

Hey there.

So Meg, I want to start with you.

Tell us what you have heard from people who have had interactions with immigration officers.

Okay, so those are the tactics that people are seeing in person.

Jude, let me ask you, what do we know about how technology is being used to do things like this?

And license plate information seems like just the beginning of all of this, and it's worth flagging these efforts have gotten a lot of funding under this administration, right?

OK, Meg, one other question is what's happening online?

On that note, what legal implications do all of these surveillance tools raise?

And Jude, what did DHS say about all of this?

That was NPR's Jude Jaffe-Block and Meg Anderson.

Thanks to you both.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Reporting from NPR's Kat Lonsdorf contributed to this story.