Scott Detrow

That just hasn't happened on so many fronts this time around.

What do you see, if anything, that's different about Tom Homan in the second administration compared to the first administration?

Any sense, given all that, what you're looking for over the next few weeks in Minneapolis with him now in charge?

That is Caitlin Dickerson, reporter at The Atlantic.

Thank you so much.

This episode was produced by Karen Zamora and Vincent Accovino.

It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Sarah Handel.

Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan.

It's Consider This from NPR.

I'm Scott Detrow.

Last spring, in the middle of the night, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro woke up to knocking and yelling.

The governor's residence was on fire, a state trooper told him.

The Shapiros had to get out of the house and fast, as ABC News reported.

No one was harmed, but the attack left Shapiro feeling first shaken and then resolute.

Shapiro was one of the most prominent Jewish office holders in the U.S.,

In his new memoir, Where We Keep the Light, Shapiro explores his faith as well as his career in politics, one that has taken him from state representative to Pennsylvania attorney general during President Trump's first term in the White House.

Now, as governor, Shapiro faces new challenges coming from the Trump administration, like potential ICE deployments.

And this year's midterm elections.

Consider this.

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro was on the short list for vice president in 2024.