Scott Evans

So that's also the thing that's happening, right?

So your husband is never gonna be your dad.

He's never gonna be the dude your dad was.

And expecting that after your dad passed, he'd somehow magically turn into the dude he's not always been in your entire relationship,

that he's not going to also be the dude who was involved in your almost getting divorced four years ago.

Like, he's the same dude he's always been.

He's the same dude.

And it sounds like he's the same dude who's going to stay the same dude, whether you get divorced now or in another 15 years.

To me, I am not a proponent of telling people to leave their marriages, but I am a proponent of telling people, of encouraging people to see the situation for what it actually is and love yourself.

Like, they certainly ain't going to do it if you don't do it.

Correct.

But then when you had a scenario where you came back to your son and said, okay, now listen, we got to talk this thing out.

And you did and came to a better agreement and understanding of one another.

That's modeling the kind of energy, the interaction that you want.

Do you know what I mean?

If your significant other, though, is incapable and unwilling – this isn't a matter of like, oh, I don't know how.

This dude is deciding not to.

It's an avoidant kind of – have you read Attached?

Yeah.

Yeah.