Scott Horton

He bombed Afghanistan for four years straight, by the way.

You know, well...

Yeah, I mean, basically kept up air operations in the south of the country for like three out of the four years and killed tens of thousands of people.

And then, of course, he supported the Saudi and UAE war against the poor people of Yemen for four years straight, a war he, again, inherited from Obama, but kept going on for his entire time in power.

Yeah.

you know was ruthless in his destruction of the islamic state and finishing iraq war three there took all the gloves off and devolved command authority as far down the chain of command as possible same for somalia and um you know it's just finally finishing the audiobook of provoked and the very end of it is i wrote it after the election but before he's sworn in right the book came out in november after the election of 24 and uh

I cite in there a lot of reasons to be pessimistic about Trump's foreign policy in his second term.

You know, as bad as we needed Ron Paul, we got Rudy Giuliani.

And that's really who Donald Trump is.

And people I know like to

I'm reminded of an old argument I got in with Justin Raimondo about Trump back in 2016, where I says, Trump, I'm for and against everything.

Justin, wow, I really like about half of the things this guy says.

You know what I mean?

Like, I'm just sitting here going, yeah, I'm sorry.

This isn't going to work on me.

Call me too much of a purist myself, I guess.

But after, you know, essentially raising Ron Paul up to some sort of demigod type status in my mind, it's hard to compare another politician to him and not be too disappointed, you know?

Yeah, that is a danger.

yeah well it worked on w bush so to go back to then what happened was if you'll remember that donald rumsfeld said we should get out of iraq james baker's right let's cut and run and bush said you're fired and brought in robert gates and decided to increase the war instead and send the extra 30 000 troops to the war and this was the so-called surge he put david petraeus in charge and so there were two big narratives at the time one was that everything wrong in

Iraq is Iran's fault, even though we've been fighting for the Shiites against the Sunni insurgency all this time.