Scott Horton

And then even if America just withdrew from the region, we could still negotiate long-term agreements between China, Japan, South Korea, and whoever.

There's no reason to think that everyone would make a mad scramble to a bomb to protect them the moment they are out from under America's nuclear umbrella and so forth.

And the fact of the matter is that...

You know, the greatest threat to the status quo as far as the nuclear powers go probably is what just happened.

America and Israel launching this war against a non-nuclear weapons state as a member in good standing of this treaty throws the whole, as they call it, the liberal rules-based world order into question.

I mean, if these rules repeatedly always apply to everyone else, but very often not to us,

then are they really the law or this is just the will of men in Washington, D.C.?

And how long do we expect the rest of the world to go ahead and abide by that?

If, you know, a deal is a deal until we decide, as Bill Clinton said, to wake up one morning and decide that we don't like it anymore and change it.

That was a phrase from the founding act of 97.

Maybe we'll wake up one morning and decide that we don't want to do something else entirely.

Is that your Bill Clinton impression?

No, I'll spare you.

That was pretty good.

Yeah, they were not in a state of war until Israel launched a state of war.

That's the fact.

Yeah, they were at war.

You go, oh, well, they backed a group that did a thing.

Yeah, okay.

But that attack was not ordered in Tehran.