Scott Horton

so this is zielinski i think had already decided that trump was throwing him overboard and wasn't going to keep supporting him in more anyway and that i don't know what the deal the minerals is is hardly worth anything and we can talk a little bit more about that but that's basically a red herring um for the most part but um so i think his decision was

so this is zielinski i think had already decided that trump was throwing him overboard and wasn't going to keep supporting him in more anyway and that i don't know what the deal the minerals is is hardly worth anything and we can talk a little bit more about that but that's basically a red herring um for the most part but um so i think his decision was

that instead of cutting running from the war he just wanted to cut and run from the united states and say fine because of course if america stops backing him we can't really make a deal with russia to end the war if ukraine's not willing to end the war and we can call off all support and then they will be you know in a much tougher situation but it won't just be like the taliban walking right into kabul or anything like that the russians will still have a fight on their hands

that instead of cutting running from the war he just wanted to cut and run from the united states and say fine because of course if america stops backing him we can't really make a deal with russia to end the war if ukraine's not willing to end the war and we can call off all support and then they will be you know in a much tougher situation but it won't just be like the taliban walking right into kabul or anything like that the russians will still have a fight on their hands

um at least for a time and so zielinski apparently is betting then that he can just turn to the europeans and essentially bet on their center left you know um last status quo position you know the the common call it whatever you want the the woke standard of the biden administration um

um at least for a time and so zielinski apparently is betting then that he can just turn to the europeans and essentially bet on their center left you know um last status quo position you know the the common call it whatever you want the the woke standard of the biden administration um

And that they will, you know, distance themselves from Trump, who is, you know, oh, he's the rogue and the right wing nationalist. And so they are left. They're calling, you know, Keir Starmer. Is that how you pronounce it?

And that they will, you know, distance themselves from Trump, who is, you know, oh, he's the rogue and the right wing nationalist. And so they are left. They're calling, you know, Keir Starmer. Is that how you pronounce it?

They're calling him the leader of the free world now because Donald Trump is the isolationist turning his back on Europe and all this, which is, you know, vast hyperbole on both counts. But you do have, it's kind of funny to see, right? The British, the French, and the Germans are talking about, well, and I think the Poles as well, we're not going to sell you out.

They're calling him the leader of the free world now because Donald Trump is the isolationist turning his back on Europe and all this, which is, you know, vast hyperbole on both counts. But you do have, it's kind of funny to see, right? The British, the French, and the Germans are talking about, well, and I think the Poles as well, we're not going to sell you out.

We're going to continue to back you no matter what, Ukraine. And with the British prime minister even promising with boots and planes, he said, and he's I would be worried about that, except that I just don't believe him. I think the Europeans have already all admitted that without the United States to guarantee their guarantees, they have nothing to offer, really.

We're going to continue to back you no matter what, Ukraine. And with the British prime minister even promising with boots and planes, he said, and he's I would be worried about that, except that I just don't believe him. I think the Europeans have already all admitted that without the United States to guarantee their guarantees, they have nothing to offer, really.

The British can't fight a war on the continent. I don't think the Germans really are coming and willing to risk that level of war over eastern Ukraine and without support from the United States and knowing that they don't have it. So, you know, I agree with you that it was ultimately a strategic blunder.

The British can't fight a war on the continent. I don't think the Germans really are coming and willing to risk that level of war over eastern Ukraine and without support from the United States and knowing that they don't have it. So, you know, I agree with you that it was ultimately a strategic blunder.

I think it was deliberate, but I think it was a huge mistake because just like the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and the then current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, had said back in September or October of 2002, I guess even still in September, they said... This is as good as it's going to get for you.

I think it was deliberate, but I think it was a huge mistake because just like the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and the then current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, had said back in September or October of 2002, I guess even still in September, they said... This is as good as it's going to get for you.

Quit now while you're only this far behind. It's time to come to the table and negotiate. And, you know, we already knew what happened, but there's a profile of Antony Blinken, the outgoing Secretary of State here,

Quit now while you're only this far behind. It's time to come to the table and negotiate. And, you know, we already knew what happened, but there's a profile of Antony Blinken, the outgoing Secretary of State here,

in the new york times where they call him secretary of war and they talk about how of course it was he and the state department weenies that won over biden and won the argument in the government that no we need to extend the war and remember then they were going to launch the winter offensive which became the spring offensive which finally when they launched it was the summer offensive and got nowhere and just got a whole bunch of people killed for nothing and this was the big gamble that blinken had made to continue the war

in the new york times where they call him secretary of war and they talk about how of course it was he and the state department weenies that won over biden and won the argument in the government that no we need to extend the war and remember then they were going to launch the winter offensive which became the spring offensive which finally when they launched it was the summer offensive and got nowhere and just got a whole bunch of people killed for nothing and this was the big gamble that blinken had made to continue the war