Scott Jones

No, I love you, Breno.

But yeah, so we call them drop bears.

And a lot of the SIGs in our army at that point in time were drop bears.

Dudes that failed either the language course or the IET component.

So you learn the language, then you listen to a certain foreign language and you have to, in your own mind, log that in real time.

So like your Zero Limits podcast intro, right?

Imagine you're listening to that for a foreign army live and

because the SAS are over there doing a job and you're listening to that and logging it live as to what the enemy are seeing.

How are they mobilizing?

Where are they?

Where are their tanks?

Where are their submarines?

Have their jets taken off?

And you're logging that in a foreign language, translating it in your head to English, shorthand, and then passing it on.

And that needs to be real time.

And if you don't do it within a certain amount of seconds, you fail the course.

So it's very difficult.

And I met some absolute weapons up there on that course, especially like the commando dudes that would shape my career.

And yeah, essentially I passed that.

And then the extension of that is you go to Canberra, you then first post to the Australian Signals Directorate, which is one of those buildings in Russell offices, a basement within a basement with no windows, no sunlight, and you're there for 12 hours a day and you're doing the job.