Scott Mann

So she contacted the DHS site, and they said, well, what we prefer is you provide this to local law enforcement, right?

So she lives in Tampa, and they said, well, we'll help you, you know,

where are you?

And she told him, Tampa, Florida.

And the information went to the Hurricane Operations Center.

And Sarah and I, we provided that information to Governor DeSantis and his team, and I think they've made adjustments to it.

But the larger point is that we're not tracking.

We're not tracking.

And if we think we got caught flat-footed on 9-11, like, we are asleep at the switch on Ambien.

Wow.

Well, I would say the first thing is that anything that would hinder our ability to use these things.

I mean, we have become, this is something I talk about in my book, but we are essentially in a collective trance state with these things.

We live here, we live in this arena, in this represented realm, this digital realm.

We don't live in the natural world.

So I think anything where they could alter our ability to work on these phones, be in these phones, anything with the power grid, anything that, because we've become so reliant.

A friend of mine recently, his wife had a C-section, and I think there was a hack, was it on Microsoft or one of the telecoms, but they had to delay the C-section.

for 24 hours because of a hack that had happened on a telecom.

Are these guys hacking too?

Terrorist organizations?

Well, again, I think that, and it would be interesting, maybe you look at bringing some folks on that can address that, but I do think there's a level of collaboration between state and non-state actors that makes hacking very viable.