Scott Mann

Do you know somebody that I should talk to about this?

Let me stew on it, and I'll talk to some folks too, but I think that would be a very, because when you start talking about

Vulnerabilities, you know, I mean, obviously we want to be careful there, but again, at the same time, if we're talking about it in a conversation, you can bet that bad actors have long since been looking at it and are actively targeting.

And so I don't think there's, it's not like you're talking about classified.

What I think though, is we've got to start having these red cell type conversations.

Like for example, we're talking about power grids right now and substations.

I mean,

The ability to look at the redundancies of a substation and where it's most vulnerable and how it can be taken out with the least effort is unconventional warfare 101.

And it's a joke.

Most of them don't even have a padlock to get in.

And to that point, when we talk about people that have come across the border and bad actors, anybody who is trained in subversion and sabotage, which is the meat and potatoes of unconventional warfare,

that you're talking about, whether that's from China, whether that's a sabotage expert from Iran or Al-Qaeda, the first rule of thumb is that kind of thing.

It's like anything where you can disrupt at a strategic level with minimum risk and minimum output, right?

And that's what you're talking about.

When you're talking about these substations and other pieces of infrastructure, it's very, very vulnerable.

And the fact that you've got all of this flood

of potential bad actors who are trained in that, then to me, it's just mind boggling that we're not leaning into that and saying, all right, well, if these things have occurred, then what can we at least do to mitigate at a state and local level and at least have conversations that would prepare communities for this kind of thing as best we can?

That's not happening.

I mean, that's just not happening.

There's not a conversation around this.