Scott Mitchell-Malm

I do think one of the biggest roadblocks here will be kind of this...

potential assumption within the overall total ownership of the team and the people around him that what it has already is enough to be achieving x and it might not be achieving x at the moment you know like last year for example there was definitely there was an opportunity to do better in terms of the performance of the car

And that was kind of misconstrued a little bit by Gene and others as, well, you know, we failed to hit our target for this year.

And it's like, well, yeah, but that will be the case if you set a target that the team shouldn't hit in the first place.

So it's really interesting to kind of ponder where it goes and where the ultimate limitations will be, what form it needs to take.

And ultimately, if it does have to relocate, if there has to be a new factory, if all the stuff that it's doing there just needs to be kind of picked up, moved somewhere else and expanded by, you know...

double basically just to be par for the course what happens there in terms of how easy is that transition who who who oversees it um how many new people are they joined by what does the workforce increase by what are the what are the demands that get taken on what does it start to do itself and obviously that would go hand in hand with whatever Toyota wanted to do if there was anything it wanted to do on the technical side so the main thing I suppose it

best way to summarise is it's got an absolutely fascinating future just because the possibilities seem fairly endless but a lot of them are quite exciting whereas just a few years ago I don't think if you worked at Haas you would be optimistic about the future at all because you genuinely wouldn't know if the team had one.

Well, just to maybe give people a little bit of homework off the back of this podcast in terms of something to go out and look for, but maybe you... That's always what listeners want.

Exactly.

But also for you, if it's something that you will have seen many years ago but forgotten...

it's worth everybody, including us, having a look at the Kannapolis facility that Haas has for the F1 team, not just for Haas as a company, objectively for the F1 team.

It makes a mockery of what they have at Banbury.

I've seen photos of it, I've seen footage from it.

It is so kitted out beyond what Banbury has, and it's ludicrous, because I think the idea was that would eventually be the F1 team base, but when, obviously, it would have been in its 40s,

When was the Kannapolis facility done?

That would have been probably for the start of the entry, right?

So in 2014-15, this would have been worked on.

It has so much.

It's so much more like F1 standard in terms of the aesthetics, but obviously it's based in North Carolina.