Scott Payne

But once I got in, I was told to, I had a ProtonMail account.

But once I got in and answered all the questions over a week period, I was instructed to download Wire.

why it's kind of like whatsapp so you can call i mean a lot less effective i mean it was harder to use but you can do you can you can have our own chat groups we can dm each other we can have the main group channel but we can dm each other we can do phone calls on it stuff like that interesting yeah is proton mail actually pretty secure i think so it is okay as far as i know damn because i never know i hear like certain apps are encrypted like telegram and whatsapp but you never know

Yeah, so that's kind of the whole thing, right?

It's like, is it encrypted, if they believe it's encrypted, and is the base outside the United States, because in their mind, if they're trying to thwart law enforcement detection, then they think, hey, if it's based out of Sweden, can the Fed subpoena Sweden, and is Sweden going to answer that subpoena?

Right.

Yeah, probably not.

But I'm not saying everybody on it's bad.

I don't want to make anybody angry, but just know that bad people go there.

I say this on a lot of interviews.

It's like, look, man, in my world, I just want you to understand that there are evil people on this planet that want to do evil things to good people.

And it's been pretty much that way since the beginning of time.

I think they're going to just – Well, I'm an optimist, and I'm a glasses-half-full guy.

So like a question that comes up a lot when I'm on these – hey, the war on drugs, do you think it's winnable?

I'm probably going to make a lot of people mad.

But I've worked in pretty much my entire law enforcement career.

In one form or another, that was a drug nexus in almost everything I did.

No, I don't think so because it's supply and demand.

Now, we can slow it down.

We can slow it down.