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Scott Santens

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
527 total appearances

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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

Are all those people going to go back to their jobs?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

No, they are absolutely not going to go back to their jobs.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

You're going to have a lot more machines doing a lot of these jobs for one thing.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And then as we discussed earlier, people who have less money to spend are not going to be able to go to these places.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And so that is the ultimate job creator is customers, is people spending money.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And so if there's no demand for those jobs, they're not going to pop back up.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

So we're going to, I expect us to see something even worse than we saw the last time this happened.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

When, you know, it took 10 years to create all these jobs that we just lost in a matter of weeks.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

Yeah, I use jobs and I use jobs specifically too.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

I'm not talking about work.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

I'm very careful about my language there.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

I use jobs because right now we still have income coupled to jobs.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And even with UBI, people will be earning more income

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

on top of their basic incomes from their employment.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And it's income that actually drives all of this activity.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

So yeah, at first we have to sever this coupling between income and jobs to the point where it's decoupled and people are receiving income regardless.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And then that's when you can start getting into this frame of mind where we actually make sure that technology does enable us to consume more and have more time and therefore choose for ourselves what it is that we want to do, be it unpaid work, be it part-time paid work.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

or via full-time employment and careers.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

And all those become options.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Scott Santens on UBI vs Stimulus Checks

But the problem is in our existing economy, as long as income is coupled to jobs, that's where this money is coming from.