Scott Santens

I don't remember specific companies.

Like maybe it was Harley-Davidson.

I think there's certainly the companies that were using steel that were affected.

But I don't remember specific companies at this point.

I just remember that there were examples of companies really doing that.

Oh, absolutely.

I mean, again, we should be investing in automation and we should be, we should get out of this, I'd say almost like it's like a trap of full employment, this belief that it's best for people to be doing these jobs.

I think that we should be aiming for full unemployment.

Like our goal should be how much

If a job can be done by a machine, then let's make a machine do it because that frees up that person to be doing other things.

And it's not only about the enabling of activities that automation enables.

It's also about time.

And in order to free up time,

That is something that is its own good because, again, we also need time in order to consume.

So we have a 70% consumer-based economy, and this all ties into automation as well, where if you eliminate someone's job, then as long as income is coupled to jobs, then you actually are reducing their ability to spend on the stuff that the machines are making.

So as you automate more and more, then the entire consumer-based system breaks down because people are no longer able to purchase stuff.

So we want to make sure not only that people continue to be able to purchase what the machines are producing, but we want to make sure that people have time to consume what is being manufactured by machines.

And I think people are even kind of getting a taste of that right now where let's say suddenly people have a lot more time on their hands.

They're, you know, we're all stuck at home.

We're all like finding things to do.