Sean Fennessey

like the robberies and stuff like that you've got something driving it too at times that's you know more akin to heat or something like that so it's cool there's one other thing about the movie that you guys haven't mentioned but I really like which is like it is a real con man movie you know which is another kind of classical thing a very like 80s centric thing and selling that is also challenging like and honestly I

As a viewer, keeping track of how I'm being conned is a lot of fun.

Maybe you can talk about the mechanics of figuring out how these things work and how you can do it.

Was that intentional for you to disorient us as the viewer, too?

Because sometimes in a movie, it is about deconstructing what's happening and showing us.

And we have Kyle explaining it.

But it is still confusing.

Do you identify with a con man at all?

What are your hopes when a movie like this comes around?

Like, do you, is your expectation, because you've been doing this for a long time now and working independently.

Like I said, you're balancing this, like these two strands, it seems like in your career of independent, you know, a lot of genre focused stuff.

And then you're in big studio movies.

And is it you want the movie to be critically well reviewed?

You want it to make X number of dollars.

You know, like you had a festival premiere.

Like, how do you think about expectations around a movie like this?

That is why I asked you guys to be here.

I was like, this does make me feel something that feels a little ancient in a good way.

Yeah.

So congrats on that.