Sean Hagan

I mean, it basically turned me into an insomniac for a little while.

Yeah, yeah.

It's hard not to, right?

I mean, when you have that much on the line, so to speak, but you go through cycles and you start to realize that you need to lower your time preference and just kind of think longer dated and you stop checking as often.

I check sometimes because we have it up in the office and I'll walk by and I'll see it.

Or if I'm advising somebody that wants to get into Bitcoin, I'll be forced to look at it.

But yeah, sit and forget it.

Yeah, it is, you know, and it wasn't at first, right?

I mean, I think that when anybody enters the space, it's really hard to understand the difference between Bitcoin and crypto.

Maybe it is now just kind of with how institutions have gotten involved in governments and you kind of see the distinction, right?

Like even the executive order delineated between Bitcoin where the U.S.

ought not sell its Bitcoin, but buy more.

But it can sell crypto and it can't buy more crypto.

So I think it's important to see the kind of growth in the obvious nature of that distinction.

But back then, like, you know, people just kind of called Bitcoin part of crypto.

Right.

So I was into yield farming and DeFi and all that.

But, you know, over time, I kind of changed my thesis to be more kind of long dated Bitcoin only.

We'll get you to top one.

Yeah.