Sean Hayes

Is that interesting to you?

Like, are you fascinated by different kinds of people?

Is that your game?

I don't think you can win unless you're drunk.

That was my problem.

What about the Sphere?

Have you been in the Sphere yet?

Guns to your head, Mac.

You got to pick one.

One of the boys is your favorite.

Talk a little bit more about that sort of the dichotomy of you are embraced and a part of such a huge global community.

You're one of all of the whole world wants to talk to you.

But then you have like that moment with your immediate group, your friends down the block, and there's kind of this thing that eats at you that you're really not one of them.

Like they talk to you and about you a little bit differently.

Like when you go back to your regular school or whatever, I remember feeling so lonely and disconnected with that such that –

when I had the time and the money to do it, I overcompensated for trying to get back into that community and just partied like crazy and tried to be one of the guys.

Did you go through any of that yourself?

But in pursuit of that, to try to get back and just be one of the guys?

What do you do to alleviate the stress?

Do you have a hobby that brings you great pleasure that people would be surprised about?