Sean Merwin

What gods of Andra, Bahamut, Coralon, Arathis, Ion, Kord, Melora, Moradin, Pelor, the Raven Queen, Sehanin, Asmodeus, Bane, Gromsh, Louth, Tiamat, Torag, Vecna, and Zahir, the latter of those being evil deities. Yeah.

Yeah. And then in 2014, as Rory said in their question, 5e returns to its depth of description that we saw in first edition for these planes of existence and for gods. In fact, Appendix B is not just about the gods, but it's got several different lists of gods

Yeah. And then in 2014, as Rory said in their question, 5e returns to its depth of description that we saw in first edition for these planes of existence and for gods. In fact, Appendix B is not just about the gods, but it's got several different lists of gods

from the different pantheons that you might want to play with, including some real-world pantheons like the Egyptian gods and Greek gods and Norse gods and such. And Appendix C in the book lists the different planes of existence and gives a little description of each and gives us a diagram of the planes that harkens back to that first edition Player's Handbook chart. What has changed?

from the different pantheons that you might want to play with, including some real-world pantheons like the Egyptian gods and Greek gods and Norse gods and such. And Appendix C in the book lists the different planes of existence and gives a little description of each and gives us a diagram of the planes that harkens back to that first edition Player's Handbook chart. What has changed?

The positive material plane is now called the Feywild. The negative material plane is now called the Shadowfell. And some of the outer planes get a little bit of a rename, but for the most part, it is a very close representation of what that first edition chart visual was.

The positive material plane is now called the Feywild. The negative material plane is now called the Shadowfell. And some of the outer planes get a little bit of a rename, but for the most part, it is a very close representation of what that first edition chart visual was.

Yeah. And as Rory mentioned, there's just one page of text and then one page of that graphic. And what's interesting to me is not that they cut it down, but what they changed is What they changed was in the center of the outer planes, there is now something new. It's Sigil.

Yeah. And as Rory mentioned, there's just one page of text and then one page of that graphic. And what's interesting to me is not that they cut it down, but what they changed is What they changed was in the center of the outer planes, there is now something new. It's Sigil.

And the Outlands have been added in the center of all of that to support the content that they've already put out in the Planescape. Planescape, yeah. They also added between the planes of fire, water, earth, and air, planes of ash, ice, ooze, and magma. And I thought, it's so... Those places have been in the game before, but I don't remember them being highlighted in anything before.

And the Outlands have been added in the center of all of that to support the content that they've already put out in the Planescape. Planescape, yeah. They also added between the planes of fire, water, earth, and air, planes of ash, ice, ooze, and magma. And I thought, it's so... Those places have been in the game before, but I don't remember them being highlighted in anything before.

what's the function of this well let me tell you what the function of that is and why i love it teos okay i love it because every setting that they're going to publish or that they have already published has different gods or no gods has different has different rules has different things to focus on and every dm's home game is going to make use of this tool in a different way.

what's the function of this well let me tell you what the function of that is and why i love it teos okay i love it because every setting that they're going to publish or that they have already published has different gods or no gods has different has different rules has different things to focus on and every dm's home game is going to make use of this tool in a different way.

And so I would rather have what's in the player's handbook there, which is, this is likely what you're going to see, player. This is likely, but we're not going to give you everything. We're going to put that in the DMG for the game master to decide. So you don't go into this with this assumption that this is how the Feywild works, or this is how this works, or this is how that works.

And so I would rather have what's in the player's handbook there, which is, this is likely what you're going to see, player. This is likely, but we're not going to give you everything. We're going to put that in the DMG for the game master to decide. So you don't go into this with this assumption that this is how the Feywild works, or this is how this works, or this is how that works.

And we're going to let the game master, or we're going to let future products that we're planning to work on do that work. And this is that pendulum, right? This is the pendulum that we talked about at the start of the show of getting very, very specific versus getting very, very loose with rules. And it's the same thing with setting.

And we're going to let the game master, or we're going to let future products that we're planning to work on do that work. And this is that pendulum, right? This is the pendulum that we talked about at the start of the show of getting very, very specific versus getting very, very loose with rules. And it's the same thing with setting.

We can be very specific, but I think there's a time and a place to be super specific. And I don't think the Player's Handbook is that place if you want to give your future designers or your game masters the freedom to maneuver within it.

We can be very specific, but I think there's a time and a place to be super specific. And I don't think the Player's Handbook is that place if you want to give your future designers or your game masters the freedom to maneuver within it.

I agree. I agree. And I think my answer back to that would be, there's this thing called nostalgia, and there's this thing called expectation that they have to deal with. If they had just left it out completely, they're risking offending the people that have always loved that aspect of D&D. So you have to mention it, but you have to mention it in a way that...