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Andrew Natsios served as deputy chief of staff for George H.W. Bush. And then when H.W. Bush's son became president, Natsios got to run USAID for several years. We asked him what he makes of all the USAID RAMA.

Andrew Natsios served as deputy chief of staff for George H.W. Bush. And then when H.W. Bush's son became president, Natsios got to run USAID for several years. We asked him what he makes of all the USAID RAMA.

Andrew Natsios served as deputy chief of staff for George H.W. Bush. And then when H.W. Bush's son became president, Natsios got to run USAID for several years. We asked him what he makes of all the USAID RAMA.

Can you help us understand what exactly happens around the world when a presidential administration in the United States comes in and says, we are cutting USAID off immediately, effective immediately? What does that mean for people around the planet?

Can you help us understand what exactly happens around the world when a presidential administration in the United States comes in and says, we are cutting USAID off immediately, effective immediately? What does that mean for people around the planet?

Can you help us understand what exactly happens around the world when a presidential administration in the United States comes in and says, we are cutting USAID off immediately, effective immediately? What does that mean for people around the planet?

I just want to get something clear from you. Are people going to die because of this political decision?

I just want to get something clear from you. Are people going to die because of this political decision?

I just want to get something clear from you. Are people going to die because of this political decision?

There's incredible optics of having, you know, the richest man in the history of our human race boasting about feeding USAID to a wood chipper. We know the sitting president thinks that this agency is helping a lot of, you know, quote unquote, shithole countries. And yet Marco Rubio is the one who's like most in front of this decision.

There's incredible optics of having, you know, the richest man in the history of our human race boasting about feeding USAID to a wood chipper. We know the sitting president thinks that this agency is helping a lot of, you know, quote unquote, shithole countries. And yet Marco Rubio is the one who's like most in front of this decision.

There's incredible optics of having, you know, the richest man in the history of our human race boasting about feeding USAID to a wood chipper. We know the sitting president thinks that this agency is helping a lot of, you know, quote unquote, shithole countries. And yet Marco Rubio is the one who's like most in front of this decision.

And there I feel like there are disingenuous arguments being made that, you know, the whole agency is insubordinate. It's gone rogue. When I think just in the previous administration, he was begging Joe Biden to increase funding to USAID.

And there I feel like there are disingenuous arguments being made that, you know, the whole agency is insubordinate. It's gone rogue. When I think just in the previous administration, he was begging Joe Biden to increase funding to USAID.

And there I feel like there are disingenuous arguments being made that, you know, the whole agency is insubordinate. It's gone rogue. When I think just in the previous administration, he was begging Joe Biden to increase funding to USAID.

For both George W. Bush and his father, no one would consider you a raging liberal. Help us understand where this political divide came from on USAID. Why is it currently a source of conservative ire?

For both George W. Bush and his father, no one would consider you a raging liberal. Help us understand where this political divide came from on USAID. Why is it currently a source of conservative ire?

For both George W. Bush and his father, no one would consider you a raging liberal. Help us understand where this political divide came from on USAID. Why is it currently a source of conservative ire?

Andrew Natsios, he's a professor at the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas. President Trump and Vice President Musk are just getting started. What we can learn from USAID when we're back on Today Explained.